Residents chatter about the December 1 City Council meeting around Gadfly’s water cooler

Latest in a series of posts about the Bethlehem Police

ref: Residents support police, reject defunding
ref: Residents who support modifying the police budget

  • Good for LVGNA [Lehigh Valley Good Neighbors Alliance] people for recognizing the threat to the police planned by Council & alerting neighbors.
  • Bias?
  • Nelson got 11 minutes to drone on, while Waldron cut into Ragni before 5 minutes — why???
  • Yeah, Waldron consistently favors Stand UP [Lehigh Valley Stands Up] callers. Back in that long meeting he called down Ragni while letting Ochs go on & on for over 15 minutes.
  • Ochs was meeting behind the scenes with some of the council members.
  • Why did they [other Council members] make Callahan the villain?
  • Yeah, all Callahan did was point out what was said.
  • At the July 7th meeting they [Council members] accommodated LVSU [Lehigh Valley Stands Up] demands, including complete abolish[ing] of policing.
  • LVSU put the pressure on meeting after meeting.
  • They [LVGNA] were accused of fear mongering? There was reason to fear police defunding based upon this radical group pulling the strings of council.
  • Yeah, it was only Tuesday night they said they were not going to put forth an amendment!!!
  • If they’d said that before, it would have been a different story Tuesday.
  • Yeah, LVGNA would have been fools not to speak out to defend the police.
  • Since the BLM protests . . .

2 thoughts on “Residents chatter about the December 1 City Council meeting around Gadfly’s water cooler

  1. It is more than a fair point that council is subjective regarding length of call-in time. Malicious? I don’t think so. Favoritism? It certainly can be argued. Simple solution, council, take more care for equity AND explain that it is within the President’s purview to extend times – if in fact it is.

    Having said that, LV”GN”A HAS maligned, insulted, and spread fear rather than understanding: undefined and unsupported knee-jerk classifying epithets (from shared online posters and the Gunther Walsh radio program) – “Marxist”, “Marxist Crusade”, “Radicals”, “Far Left”, “Leftist”, “Oddball”, “Indoctrinating”, “Infiltrate the government”, “Master Plan”, and “Power Grab” are manipulative, bullying, dangerous fear-mongering attempts serving to incite, suppress, and divide.

    To express an opposing opinion is the Constitutional RIGHT OF ALL. Having said THAT, slander and libel – “Marxist” and the like – are crimes.

    Could defunders and abolitionists put things less shockingly, ie “read the room” better? Of course.

    So LV”GN”A and it’s supporters COULD educate themselves about and/or acknowledge the damage to our city, nation, and species of the “inter-generational trauma” of slavery, Jim Crow and its modern legacy, IF the leadership existed among these extreme factions, entrenched in past repressive “norms”.

    So our ancestors could have NOT enslaved, abused a people. Wrongs to be righted, STILL.

    Yes, there is much suffering outside of our minority family. But NOT because of these brothers and sisters.

    Let’s have the humility, respect, and wisdom to ASK WHY defunders and abolitionists no longer soften their complaints!

    THEY have been and continue to be oppressed. LV”GN”A, in their shoes, you’ve demonstrated you would strike outwardly, in your own defense. So THEY have spoken.

    To ignore the opinion and argument of another is undemocratic as Pope Francis reminded us of the golden Rule – and so much more fundamental to being truly “Good Neighbors” – in his 2015 address to the joint session of Congress*, a timely reminder and rebuke of our base, selfish, fearful, and materialistic failings.

    Let’s unite to recognize our common challenge. You might find the Pope’s words are a good guide for our path forward in continued coexistence.

    * https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.christianpost.com/amp/transcript-pope-francis-to-congress-pursue-the-common-good-respect-human-dignity.html

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